lol I've used that also got another style for u to try small drop shot hook ..hook thru both eyes of gulp I like the 2.5 to 4 inch depends on size of shad in ...more your lake ..hooked thru the eyes an small split shot bout 18imches up from hook..light line 6lb test ..use lightest split shot u can an still be able to cast it well. the lighter the weight the slower an more natural the fall rate is..yo yo it slow back in..they will smack it in drop