is is the crate I setup for my kayak the other day! for you guys that don't like the rods sticking straight up in the air catching on low hanging branches I ...more took 2" pvc pipe and bolted it to the sides of the milk crate at an angle so that the rods don't stick up the lay at an angle and you don't have to worry about the low tree limbs as much I think it might have cost $5 to make