I forgot... The FLW guy used n old type of topwater that is no longer made. However we approximated it with a Bagley's Bang O Lure spintail. EARLY morning he ...more cast it out on mono line in likley places. Typically he would make the bait spit with tiny twitches. He did not zip it along at all or make a lot of commotion. Nods & twitches.....